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Hi all, I need a bit of help.
I recently bought a kitten from a breeder in QLD and all seemed fine, she kept in good contact with me before and after the purchase and the kittens arrival. but I have a few issues and I would like some help and opinions.
Saturday morning after she put the kitten on the plane from Brisbane to Adelaide she let me know the kitten had diarrhea from the stress of the 1000 km car travel to Brisbane, and that she took her to the vet and the vet said she would be fine. Would anyone else send a kitten after a vet gave their ok but they were ill? I personally wouldn't but I had no idea until she had already left.
also when the kitten arrived I took her to the vet for a check-up and to get her second lot of vaccinations but as I suspected the vet wouldn't vacc her because she was ill. The vet weighed her and at 14 weeks she was only 650 grams. Is this common for a Devon kitten? I would assume that they grow approx 100 grams per week as per normal kitten growth guidelines. The vet got a second opinion and both vets suggested that she was not in fact as old as what the breeder had said, or if she was there was something seriously wrong. By the growth guidelines I would have thought she would have been at least 1.5 kgs? more than double her actual weight.
Over the 6 days she was with us, she did not improve and couldn't hold her body temp so we had to hold her and keep her warm as well as using our neuter as a surrogate mum to keep her warm when we weren't home.
After 6 days of constant vet visits and treatments to try to improve her health, and daily hand feeding and dripper feeding a water and Vytrate mix to ensure she was eating and drinking the kitten quickly deteriorated to the point where she was unable to control her own bodily functions and started to get hypothermic. 
We were out for a whole 2 hours and came home to her in a puddle of her own pee and she was unable to move, just quietly crying. We took her straight to the vet, the vet left his patients to work on her as soon as we arrived and because she was so small and so ill the vet was sure she wouldn't survive further treatment and suggested euthanasia above further treatment to prevent her from further suffering.
Has anyone else had a similar experience? 
Do you know what may have caused this? or any other info you may think would be relevant?
This has been an expensive and painstaking 6 days, but at least poor Pixie is not suffering anymore.
Thank you in advance, Angela

I forgot to mention that general blood test results come back tomorrow to try to point us in the right direction of the cause.

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  • Hi Angela,
    No, no ethical breeder would knowingly send off a sick kitten.
    It is strange that the breeder's Vet gave the okay for her to go if she was sick.
    Regarding her weight, you are right. At 14 weeks I would think she should weight around 1.5 kilos, sometimes a little more or less but generally around that mark.
    ( Also I thought the freight companies in Australia had restrictions on minimum weight...Im not 100% sure, maybe someone can clarify that... )
    The breeder should have ordered a post mortem- was that done? That would give you both the answers you need. Hopefully the breeder has been helpful and supportive.
    I am sorry for what you and Pixie went through. Frown.gif
  • Thanks for your reply Nicole,
    Pixies body is being held at the vet surgery but as yet there has been no autopsy, the breeder said I can get one done but she can't afford it unless absolutely neccessary. Her bloods were sent off today for a general blood test to point us in the right direction of the possible underlying cause.
    The transport company didn't turn the kitten away or mention anything to me so I suppose they don't have weight restrictions, but they did mention that she was smaller than they usually see when I picked her up from the airport.
    I feel sorry for Pixie, the poor little thing would have suffered terribly over her last few days even though we did all we could to keep her comfortable and happy.
  • Hi Angela, im so sorry this happened to you. I just feel sick.
    I also got my Devon Baby from QLD, but it would seem as though i found a much more dedicated breeder than you. She even held ours back for a week because she was small. And i know she has strict rules about her kittens flying long distance and when she will let them go. We had a 9 hour drive home and Molly was absolutely content in the car.
    Molly was 300grams at 9 weeks, 600 at 11 weeks and now 950 at 13.5 weeks. She is naturally very warm and although small she is very healthy other than a little skin problem we are having.
    Are you planning to get another kitten? If so i'd be happy to email you my breeders details. Also another good idea is pet insurance, we have molly on top cover with medibank. You could set it up before the kitty even arrives.
  • in the UK its usually only a few hrs drive at most to collect a kitten in the car, can see the diffs associated with longer distance travels for the littlies - from the thread it looks like both your good self and also your own vets have tried the very very best to save pixies life - sadly it wasnt so - but mabe you can take some small comfort in knowing that what was done to help her and then to PTS to save suffering was at all times in her best interests - perhaps the PM results may show something amiss or maybe the stress of the trip was too much - am so so sorry at your loss - love and prayers for you your vets also pixie - babs plus peter xx
  • i am really sorry to here about this.
    my heart goes out to you and your family.
  • Just to give a bit of an update.
    This must be a hard time for the breeder also, she said it was her first litter, although before she made it sound like she was an experienced breeder. She has agreed to cover all vet costs etc. I can imagine that it would be just as stressful and upsetting for her as it has been for my family.
    Even if we had the paperwork for pet insurance done for her, kittens/cats aren't covered if they present with symptoms within 72 hours of leaving their breeders homes, so that would not have helped.
    We find out blood test results today.
    Thankyou everyone for your replies
  • This is really heartbreaking, I'm so sorry for your loss. Hope Pixie rest in peace. The short time she was with you she was loved and petted, it's so unfair you had to let her go.

    Overhere in the netherlands kittens can't leave the breeder unless they're 13 weeks old and at least 1kg. At least, that's what I've been told (I'm not a breeder myself).

    To be honest I'm horrified the breeder of this one let her fly to you when she was sick, even when it was just a little bit just then. Just common sense I believe, flying and going to a new home is stressfull enough on it's own. When the kitten doesn't have 100% health it can turn to the worse. As unfortunately it did with your little Pixie.

    Hopefully the bloodtest can tell you something more on why you're Pixie was taken away from you.

    Condoleances on your loss.
  • I am sorry to hear this it is in one word terrible
    You never send or bring a kitten with this weight and with diaree to the new owner
    My hair go up when i read this story the breeder is responsible and hear it all the way to reimburse expenses and the cat
    This is not to compensate the grief for this poor cat Pixie but she is now resting
    A kitten belongs to 12 weeks but at least 1.5 pounds it's so important to a smooth surface and launch a kitten
    I wish you strength Adrie

    Curlycats said:
    This is really heartbreaking, I'm so sorry for your loss. Hope Pixie rest in peace. The short time she was with you she was loved and petted, it's so unfair you had to let her go.

    Overhere in the netherlands kittens can't leave the breeder unless they're 13 weeks old and at least 1kg. At least, that's what I've been told (I'm not a breeder myself).

    To be honest I'm horrified the breeder of this one let her fly to you when she was sick, even when it was just a little bit just then. Just common sense I believe, flying and going to a new home is stressfull enough on it's own. When the kitten doesn't have 100% health it can turn to the worse. As unfortunately it did with your little Pixie.

    Hopefully the bloodtest can tell you something more on why you're Pixie was taken away from you.

    Condoleances on your loss.
  • Hi all,
    the blood test showed no signs of viral or bacterial infection which is good, but because there was no autopsy done we don't know if she had a congenital defect although her size and immune-depression could also have been caused by being weaned from her mothers milk to early. Her blood test showed that she was suffering from malnutrition and hypothermia, her body was breaking down its own proteins, she had a reduced amount of electrolytes even with electrolyte therapy and she would have sustained brain loss and experienced seizures in the time I was out.
    Diarrhea can cause a lot of trouble in such a little kitten. Even if she was kept at the vet on IV as soon as she arrived they said the chances of her making it through even then would have been slim and she would have been a small sickly cat the rest of her life.
    At least she is not suffering now, and at least both the breeder and I know to look for this and prevent it in the future.
    We brought Pixie home yesterday and buried her in our garden. RIP Pixie.
    thanks to all that have replied. If anyone has had similar experiences with their kittens health such as this please tell me a bit about it, because it may shed a little more light on why she became ill in the first place.
  • at least all that could be done was done - so may pixie rest at peace angela - always remember this very beautiful devon angel albiet for a too short a while - hold her inside your heart - this helps to say since some yrs ago we lost five from litter of six lovely baby siamese born too small to survive - sometimes its beyond us all but am sure you and she shared something so so preciously special, so dear pretty pixie, rip and amen, babs x

    Angela Persello said:
    Hi all,
    the blood test showed no signs of viral or bacterial infection which is good, but because there was no autopsy done we don't know if she had a congenital defect although her size and immune-depression could also have been caused by being weaned from her mothers milk to early. Her blood test showed that she was suffering from malnutrition and hypothermia, her body was breaking down its own proteins, she had a reduced amount of electrolytes even with electrolyte therapy and she would have sustained brain loss and experienced seizures in the time I was out.
    Diarrhea can cause a lot of trouble in such a little kitten. Even if she was kept at the vet on IV as soon as she arrived they said the chances of her making it through even then would have been slim and she would have been a small sickly cat the rest of her life.
    At least she is not suffering now, and at least both the breeder and I know to look for this and prevent it in the future.
    We brought Pixie home yesterday and buried her in our garden. RIP Pixie.
    thanks to all that have replied. If anyone has had similar experiences with their kittens health such as this please tell me a bit about it, because it may shed a little more light on why she became ill in the first place.
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