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On another list an Australian breeder claims it is normal practise for Australian breeders to sell their kittens at 10 weeks old with only one vaccination ?

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  • Every breeder is different and we all choose what we think is better for our cats/kittens. You will find most registered breeders in australia are allowed too sell kittens from 10 weeks old. Whether the breeder decides to let them go later, desex them aswell is again a personal choice. In my state i do not have to microchip and my vet wont desex till 12 weeks so mine get 2 vaccs desex but no microchip. Some other breeders will do one vac desex and microchip. And the list can keep going, its about personal choices and beliefs in what we think is better.

    As i could turn around and say not many breeders in the uk early desex... I have breeder friends who dont early desex and i have no problems with this as they have their reasons and have researched to make this decision as i'm sure most of us have in what we decide too do.

    We have byb as you do too in the uk ours sell their kittens from 6 - 8 weeks old even though it is illegal under 8 weeks in most states but there is not alot they can do and you are lucky if they are wormed let alone vaccinated.

    I dont think anyone can judge any breeder from internet unless they have actually visited their home and seen how the cats and kittens are raised.
  • I find it a bit shocking that kittens are sold without being fully vaccinated, I have to admit I wouldn't be willing for any of my cats to go to Australia if that is common practice.

    Jenifer said:
    Every breeder is different and we all choose what we think is better for our cats/kittens. You will find most registered breeders in australia are allowed too sell kittens from 10 weeks old. Whether the breeder decides to let them go later, desex them aswell is again a personal choice. In my state i do not have to microchip and my vet wont desex till 12 weeks so mine get 2 vaccs desex but no microchip. Some other breeders will do one vac desex and microchip. And the list can keep going, its about personal choices and beliefs in what we think is better.

    As i could turn around and say not many breeders in the uk early desex... I have breeder friends who dont early desex and i have no problems with this as they have their reasons and have researched to make this decision as i'm sure most of us have in what we decide too do.

    We have byb as you do too in the uk ours sell their kittens from 6 - 8 weeks old even though it is illegal under 8 weeks in most states but there is not alot they can do and you are lucky if they are wormed let alone vaccinated.

    I dont think anyone can judge any breeder from internet unless they have actually visited their home and seen how the cats and kittens are raised.
  • Well I dont judge any by internet, but I dont want to let the kittens move until 14 weeks of age.
  • Not being a breeder probably I shouldn't post here. I have had 2 of my cats arrive as kittens - 1 had one vaccination, microchiped & neutered, the other 2 vaccinations, neutered & microchipped. Both were taken to my vet within the first week of their arrival for a basic check & to be introduced to my vet. I have had no problems with either kitten & the breeders were within the rules of the cat council they are registered with.

    As Jenifer said each breeder has their own standards & rules & I'm sure all comply with the guidelines set by their governing council.
  • I agree with Jennifer, it is very much based on what each breeder sees is in the best interest of the kitten. Vaccination protocols depend on what the breeder chooses to do and for me it depends on when the first is done (preference is for later rather than before 8 weeks) and when they go to their new homes. I also promote the two vaccination protocol only rather than three as it is well known now that we over vaccinate and if the second is done after 12 weeks there is no need for a third at 16 weeks. I am lucky to have a vet that also agrees with this protocol whereas some vets will insist on giving three.

    I generally hang on to them until 12 weeks but some have been mature enough to go a few days short of 12 weeks. As their immune system development is more complete at 12 weeks I prefer for them to go around that time.

    Early desexing is also a personal choice (I have made an informed choice not to do it) and I agree that unless you know the set up and have seen the conditions and presentation of the kittens it is hard to know what the reality is.

    I also don't prescribe to the view that because a breeder is registered they are an ethical breeder necessarily. The debates that go on about so called "backyard breeders" are too simplistic in my view as just because someone joins a club and has a document saying they are registered doesn't mean they do all the right things.

    Gill



    Joy said:
    Not being a breeder probably I shouldn't post here. I have had 2 of my cats arrive as kittens - 1 had one vaccination, microchiped & neutered, the other 2 vaccinations, neutered & microchipped. Both were taken to my vet within the first week of their arrival for a basic check & to be introduced to my vet. I have had no problems with either kitten & the breeders were within the rules of the cat council they are registered with.
    As Jenifer said each breeder has their own standards & rules & I'm sure all comply with the guidelines set by their governing council.
  • I have deleted some comments on this thread. Debate & differences of opinion are always welcome but please keep personal issues away from the forum.
  • I don't think it matters whether you are a breeder or not, you still are entitled to your opinion, on my board there are lots of breeders, judges and pet and show neuter owners, all their opinions are valued.

    Joy said:
    Not being a breeder probably I shouldn't post here. I have had 2 of my cats arrive as kittens - 1 had one vaccination, microchiped & neutered, the other 2 vaccinations, neutered & microchipped. Both were taken to my vet within the first week of their arrival for a basic check & to be introduced to my vet. I have had no problems with either kitten & the breeders were within the rules of the cat council they are registered with.

    As Jenifer said each breeder has their own standards & rules & I'm sure all comply with the guidelines set by their governing council.
  • Every members opinion is also valued here at Devon Zone.
    With so many members that simply read this board and do not contribute we welcome input from all members, whether they are breeders or not.
  • Jodie Bryant said:
    As I said before but think it got removed,

    No, it was not removed from here Jodie. Perhaps you replied to this topic on another board as I have also seen it posted elsewhere.

    The only posts that have ever been removed from Devon Zone were ones relating to personal issues between members.
  • I don't understand why that statement should upset you, I asked on here if the breeders statement was true, and if it was, then I personally wouldn't let any of my kittens go there, I didn't say other people shouldn't.
    As far as breeders letting kittens go under age in this country, they had to be what we call byb's, just because a breeder has a registered prefix, doesn't mean they are reputable.

    Jodie Bryant said:
    LOL maybe I typed it and never actually posted it! I havent seen it anywhere else so....

    I made a point in it about my parents getting 2 bengals in the UK who were only 8-10 weeks with one vacc from a registered breeder and trying to make the point that it happens everywhere. I was a little upset with a post saying they would definately never send a cat here if that was normal practice, and think that statement is a little unfair towards Aussie breeders and very generalised, formed by one breeders claims about how they sell their kittens. I think we all need to be a bit more realistic about the fact you will always get the breeders or only do what the guidelines state and those who go above and beyond what is legally required. As others have stated it is personal choice about what is right for their kittens, I dont have a problem with expecting new owners to get the kittens final vaccination done at the same time they take them for a vet check, if you pick the right owners for your kitten then you can be confident it will be done. I would have far more trouble worrying about whether they get them desexed or not, but then again its to do with choosing the right owners.

    Think that was everything I said, cant remember! LOL!!
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